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Jesus Christ Died for God's ElectFrom Concise Theology by J. I. Packer
I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me--just as the Father knows me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep.JOHN 10:14-15
Definite redemption, sometimes called "particular redemption," "effective atonement," and "limited atonement," is an historic Reformed doctrine about the intention of the triune God in the death of Jesus Christ. Without doubting the infinite worth of Christ's sacrifice or the genuineness of God's "whoever will" invitation to all who hear the gospel (Rev. 22:17), the doctrine states that the death of Christ actually put away the sins of all God's elect and ensured that they would be brought to faith through regeneration and kept in faith for glory, and that this is what it was intended to achieve. From this definiteness and effectiveness follows its limitedness: Christ did not die in this efficacious sense for everyone. The proof of that, as Scripture and experience unite to teach us, is that not all are saved.
The only possible alternatives are (a) actual universalism, holding that Christ's death guaranteed salvation for every member of the human race, past, present, and future, or (b) hypothetical universalism, holding that Christ's death made salvation possible for everyone but actual only for those who add to it a response of faith and repentance that was not secured by it. The choices are, therefore, an atonement of unlimited efficacy but limited extent (Reformed particularism), one of unlimited extent but limited efficacy (hypothetical universalism), or one of unlimited efficacy and unlimited extent (actual universalism). Scripture must be the guide in choosing between these possibilities.
Scripture speaks of God as having chosen for salvation a great number of our fallen race and having sent Christ into the world to save them (JOHN 6:37-40, 10:27-29, 11:51-52; Rom. 8:28-39; Eph. 1:3-14; 1 Pet. 1:20). Christ is regularly said to have died for particular groups or persons, with the clear implication that his death secured their salvation (JOHN 10:15-18,27-29; Rom. 5:8-10, 8:32; Gal. 2:20, 3:13-14, 4:4-5; 1 John 4:9-10; Rev. 1:4-6, 5:9-10). Facing his passion, he prayed only for those the Father had given him, not for the "world" (i.e., the rest of mankind, JOHN 17:9,20). Is it conceivable that he would decline to pray for any whom he intended to die for? Definite redemption is the only one of the three views that harmonizes with this data.
There is no inconsistency or incoherence in the teaching of the New Testament about, on the one hand, the offer of Christ in the gospel, which Christians are told to make known everywhere, and, on the other hand, the fact that Christ achieved a totally efficacious redemption for God's elect on the cross. It is a certain truth that all who come to Christ in faith will find mercy (JOHN 6:35,47-51,54-57; Rom. 1:16, 10:8-13). The elect hear Christ's offer, and through hearing it are effectually called by the Holy Spirit. Both the invitation and the effectual calling flow from Christ's sin-bearing death. Those who reject the offer of Christ do so of their own free will (i.e., because they choose to, Matt. 22:1-7; JOHN 3:18), so that their final perishing is their own fault. Those who receive Christ learn to thank him for the cross as the centerpiece of God's plan of sovereign saving grace.
From: Concise Theology: A Guide To Historic Christian Beliefs
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Showing posts with label "Limited" Atonement. Show all posts
Showing posts with label "Limited" Atonement. Show all posts
Sunday, May 10, 2009
Saturday, May 09, 2009
It was my sin that held Him there
Until it was accomplished
His dying breath has brought me life
I know that it is finished.
--How Deep the Father’s Love, Stuart Townend
From heav'n He came and sought her
To be His holy bride;
With His own blood He bought her,
And for her life He died.
--The Church’s One Foundation
Bearing shame and scoffing rude,
In my place condemned He stood;
Sealed my pardon with His blood.
Hallelujah! What a Savior!
Guilty, vile, and helpless we;
Spotless Lamb of God was He;
“Full atonement!” can it be?
Hallelujah! What a Savior!
Lifted up was He to die;
“It is finished!” was His cry;
--Man of Sorrows (Hallelujah! What a Savior)
I will sing of my Redeemer
And His wondrous love to me
On the cruel cross He suffered
From the curse to set me free
Sing, oh sing of my Redeemer
With His blood, He purchased me.
On the cross, He sealed my pardon,
Paid the debt, and made me free.
--I will sing of my Redeemer
Jesus paid it all
All to Him I owe
Sin had left a crimson stain
He washed it white as snow
--Jesus Paid it All
Until it was accomplished
His dying breath has brought me life
I know that it is finished.
--How Deep the Father’s Love, Stuart Townend
From heav'n He came and sought her
To be His holy bride;
With His own blood He bought her,
And for her life He died.
--The Church’s One Foundation
Bearing shame and scoffing rude,
In my place condemned He stood;
Sealed my pardon with His blood.
Hallelujah! What a Savior!
Guilty, vile, and helpless we;
Spotless Lamb of God was He;
“Full atonement!” can it be?
Hallelujah! What a Savior!
Lifted up was He to die;
“It is finished!” was His cry;
--Man of Sorrows (Hallelujah! What a Savior)
I will sing of my Redeemer
And His wondrous love to me
On the cruel cross He suffered
From the curse to set me free
Sing, oh sing of my Redeemer
With His blood, He purchased me.
On the cross, He sealed my pardon,
Paid the debt, and made me free.
--I will sing of my Redeemer
Jesus paid it all
All to Him I owe
Sin had left a crimson stain
He washed it white as snow
--Jesus Paid it All
The "ALL" & "WORLD" passages
When developing an understanding of what the Bible teaches, you must wrestle with all the bible, not just the bits that explicitly back your view.... so we should think about about the ALL and WORLD passages
POINT: The bible uses words like ALL and WORLD when it does not mean every human being.
example
John 12:19 The Pharisees said to one another, "Look, the whole world has gone after him."
Does anyone seriously think the entire population of earth was following Jesus?
ALSO:
Luke 2:1 (“all the world”) does not envisage the entire population of the planet taking part in a Roman census any more than Matthew 3:5 (“all Judea”) means to
suggest that every man, woman, and child in Judea was baptised by John.
--Lee Gattis, in a pretty dense but helpful paper
POINT: The bible uses words like ALL and WORLD when it does not mean every human being.
example
John 12:19 The Pharisees said to one another, "Look, the whole world has gone after him."
Does anyone seriously think the entire population of earth was following Jesus?
ALSO:
Luke 2:1 (“all the world”) does not envisage the entire population of the planet taking part in a Roman census any more than Matthew 3:5 (“all Judea”) means to
suggest that every man, woman, and child in Judea was baptised by John.
--Lee Gattis, in a pretty dense but helpful paper
Handle with care
Wayne Grudem comments about limited atonement:
“a subject that almost inevitably leads to some confusion, some
misunderstanding, and often some wrongful argumentativeness and divisiveness among God’s people – all of which are negative pastoral considerations.”
So while particular redemption informs our doctrine at many levels and challenges our received practices, it
may well be better to keep such a disputable matter somewhat in the background of an ordinary preaching
ministry. It is a doctrine, to be sure, which belongs in the engine room of theology, a major component of the
potent theological apparatus which is the Reformed faith. Yet while engines are impressive in their ability to
get things moving, it can be messy, and rather disturbing for those less mechanicallyminded,
to see them
disassembled and laid out on the floor in pieces. It is, therefore, a doctrine to be handled with particular care.
--Lee Gatiss
“a subject that almost inevitably leads to some confusion, some
misunderstanding, and often some wrongful argumentativeness and divisiveness among God’s people – all of which are negative pastoral considerations.”
So while particular redemption informs our doctrine at many levels and challenges our received practices, it
may well be better to keep such a disputable matter somewhat in the background of an ordinary preaching
ministry. It is a doctrine, to be sure, which belongs in the engine room of theology, a major component of the
potent theological apparatus which is the Reformed faith. Yet while engines are impressive in their ability to
get things moving, it can be messy, and rather disturbing for those less mechanicallyminded,
to see them
disassembled and laid out on the floor in pieces. It is, therefore, a doctrine to be handled with particular care.
--Lee Gatiss
Friday, May 08, 2009
Mission Accomplished
My sin, oh, the bliss of this glorious thought!
My sin, not in part but the whole,
Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more,
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!
--spafford
Jesus, friend of sinners
Loved me ’ere I knew Him
Drew me with His cords of love
Tightly bound me to Him
’Round my heart still closely twined
The ties that none can sever
For I am His and He is mine
Forever and forever
---sovereign grace music
My sin, not in part but the whole,
Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more,
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!
--spafford
Jesus, friend of sinners
Loved me ’ere I knew Him
Drew me with His cords of love
Tightly bound me to Him
’Round my heart still closely twined
The ties that none can sever
For I am His and He is mine
Forever and forever
---sovereign grace music
Thursday, May 07, 2009
He really does redeem
The negative cast of the ‘five points’ is misleading chiefly with
regard to the third (limited atonement, or particular redemption), which is often read with stress
on the adjective and taken as indicating that Calvinists have a special interest in confining the
limits of divine mercy. But in fact the purpose of this phraseology, as we shall see, is to
safeguard the central affirmation of the gospel—that Christ is a redeemer who really does
redeem. --Packer, ibid
regard to the third (limited atonement, or particular redemption), which is often read with stress
on the adjective and taken as indicating that Calvinists have a special interest in confining the
limits of divine mercy. But in fact the purpose of this phraseology, as we shall see, is to
safeguard the central affirmation of the gospel—that Christ is a redeemer who really does
redeem. --Packer, ibid
Not in part, but the whole!
"Complete atonement Thou hast made,
And to the utmost farthing paid,
Whate'er Thy people owed;
How, then, can wrath on me take place,
If sheltered in Thy righteousness,
And sprinkled with Thy blood."
great article on this hymn here
And to the utmost farthing paid,
Whate'er Thy people owed;
How, then, can wrath on me take place,
If sheltered in Thy righteousness,
And sprinkled with Thy blood."
great article on this hymn here
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
Definitions
this sunday we will celebrate the tremendous accomplishment of Jesus on the cross
atone - to supply satisfaction foratonement - the reconciliation of God and man through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ
redeem - a: to buy back: REPURCHASE b: to get or win back
Definite Redemption
I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me--just as the Father knows me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep. JOHN 10:14-15
Without doubting the infinite worth of Christ's sacrifice or the genuineness of God's "whoever will" invitation to all who hear the gospel (Rev. 22:17), the doctrine states that the death of Christ actually put away the sins of all God's elect and ensured that they would be brought to faith through regeneration and kept in faith for glory, and that this is what it was intended to achieve. From this definiteness and effectiveness follows its limitedness: Christ did not die in this efficacious sense for everyone. The proof of that, as Scripture and experience unite to teach us, is that not all are saved. --J.I. Packer
Without doubting the infinite worth of Christ's sacrifice or the genuineness of God's "whoever will" invitation to all who hear the gospel (Rev. 22:17), the doctrine states that the death of Christ actually put away the sins of all God's elect and ensured that they would be brought to faith through regeneration and kept in faith for glory, and that this is what it was intended to achieve. From this definiteness and effectiveness follows its limitedness: Christ did not die in this efficacious sense for everyone. The proof of that, as Scripture and experience unite to teach us, is that not all are saved. --J.I. Packer
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