passage in exodus 4 reminds me:
7 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as
sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
8 If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated,
then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
9 Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we
respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of
spirits and live?
10 For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them,
but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness.
11 For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant,
but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who
have been trained by it.
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